In Reply to: My answer to Judas Christ (repost) posted by Joshua on April 13, 2003 at 07:30:12:
Posted by Joshua on April 13, 2003 at 07:30:12
> You are still a friend and I didn't say
> anything against that if you read below.
> Just the fact that you refer to evil names I
> don't agree with. I know the youth in
> general is rebellious to conservatism
> somehow as towards conservative Christianity but
> that doesn't mean Christianity as whole is
> bad see? I rebelled against the Catholic
> churches when I was young as it was lukewarm much
> and dead in good part somehow with no direct
> link in prayer with Jesus Christ in
> there for example and lazy spirit in there too
> much.
> But in USA you have Born-Again Christian
> assemblies better much where in all a direct
> link with Jesus Christ praying to Him
> personnally is proposed much, so it's
> different and stronger stuff than you think!
> All young people have a tendancy to rebel
> against things but getting older you realize
> that often you cannot do better much and
> still have to accept some frames and
> standards that looked conmservative at first sight
> when you were younger, but those frames and standards look way more
> needed than you thought younger. Some strong young Born-Again Christians understand that sooner and have better lives as they have a good Christian stronger attitude and stronger saner friends!...
For example for alcohol and drugs, to fall in them as an
> habit is easy and dangerous, that is even if
> the youth thinks it's normal stuff.... It's not normal stuff or to compromize with as some other stuff... (as hurting each others when turning in circles in a freaky crowd listening to some hard rock or other bands and normal increase of mockery as violene as youth schemes...). The only
> thing I can tell you is that some youth in
> good Born-Again Christian assembies don't
> drink or take drugs as their attitude is
> stronger and better than those who have been
> in a cult (COG or Family for example or
> others) as in those last groups the frames
> of mind, attitudes, behaviours were not
> strong enough and based obn solid ground
> enough to progress right, see?
> As parents in the cult, we did an enormous
> mistake to join a cult and that came to
> influence our youth bad. So now we have to
> detach completely from that pattern and have
> saner friends who had a better stronger
> attitude and conduct from saner parents who
> don't have a rebellious attitude themselves
> against life they still fed in a cult
> (against evil system and churches Berg-type,
> etc...).
> That rebelliousness can bring many as I saw,
> youth and adults, to fall in alcoholism
> back, or fallin' in alcohol and drugs or strange
> beliefs as witchcraft as a strong rebellious
> reaction (!) against Christianity or any faith
> as a whole as their parents' sample was
> weak, weak in faith and weak in standards and not grounded on solid ground. Some understand that sooner than others and change faster and heal faster, some do the opposite and don't heal thenselves.
> That is why I believe no youth help should
> be given by non-qualified people as us as
> ex-cult members much as us ex-members
> parents have much to heal ourselves before
> trying to help others some more qualified
> stronger people could do better..., that is too for sure not relying on unsecure people still having rebellious or weak habits still as not cleansed enough of dangerous attitudes and spirits in the cult.
> We can just refer them intead then to stronger
> Christians and even counsel them too still
> but only if we got out of that rebellious
> anti-everything spirit ourselves and are
> with stronger Born-Again Christians
> ourselves stronger than us whatever we
> thought of those guys before, see?...
> I see your way to approach witchcraft
> somehow as a rebellion against true childish
> sane conduct or beliefs and it's not good,
> just a rebellious from you because as others
> I saw it becomes your new drug as you didn't
> hook enough fully on simple Jesus Christ
> directly as you got deceived by your
> father's life in a cult. But just take your
> father's good witnessing in Christ part we
> saw he does, and forget then the rest, past shit, and
> progress. I know you didn't fall in alcohol
> in drugs as much as some other
> youth rebelling against the cult and their
> parents' shit they experenced in the cult,
> but to fall in strange doctrines is somehow
> as dangerous too. Thanks for your e-mail
> too by the way.
Ask your father how much it's important
> to concentrate fully on the name Jesus
> Christ more when communicating with him.
> Don't ask me why either why God and evil come
> and be in His Creation, but a hint to
> understand that is as some say and I
> realized is that white cannot exist without
> black, happiness without sorrow, and
> happiness without pain. We say we could have
> created ourselves a better plan than God
> seeing suffering in the World, but one thing
> I know and I'm sure, He knows what He's
> doing and we couldn't have done better as
> God is Perfect despite all the shit in the
> World and that when you believe in Him fully
> much and praise Him and ask Him help
> strongly, your life becomes better and
> surroundings. But including that is to
> search for good company too... stable sane
> Born-Again Christians to share with that is,
> even if those don't want to drink or smoke
> with you... (I know you don't fall in those
> two last weaknesses) and strong Christians
> who don't compromise with anyhing
> "unsecure" just to try a new wave
> thing following a wrong pattern of rebellion
> they would regret later instead of having
> sticked to simple belief in Jesus Christ
> Saviour... True simple belief in Jesus Christ is the srongest Faith worlwide and thinking we can have power ourselves otherwise some other way in some other belief is losing time... Forget all the Mo letters and cult attitudes you learn and search for a good Christian assembly with strong cleaner attitudes from young people without weaknesses, even if you meet them shortly in first Sunday assembly, usualy they all have week and weekend larger activities ("soft" (!)inspiring youth camps with sane strong qualified animators for example, etc..., you could even become an animator there later!) (Pentacostal assemblies better as more alive, find the one that fits you where people have no "fits" hehe!)...
> My opinion!
> Joshua