In Reply to: Re: Chaos theory? posted by OT2 on January 20, 2010 at 10:49:26:
Peace:
I like your posting name!
Please be patient with me. Here I go again.
I believe that there are only so many basic types of belief systems in the world, and that philosophical "proofs" are attempted for each by their adherents and/or proponents in their defense.
Correlations of data and subjective experience are attempted. Atheists claim their data is purely objective; it is not--data are invariably collected by people, with a certain interpretive/interpolative model of some kind in mind--always.
Theism of some kind is always in the background; whether atheism, through agnosticism, and on to pantheism/panentheism. An overarching explanatory belief paradigm is always assumed in one form or another, even if only to pause briefly to try to attempt to embrace philosophical nihilism, as I once did. It's impossible to continue to embrace it and collect data; I found, with any kind of coherency.
Both CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley recognized that the belief systems of the world fell fairly well into 2 camps: Judeo-Christian and Hindu-Gnostic, or mixtures thereof (and in our late '60s to present era including worlwide sub-Christian and sub-Hindu destructive cults, operating a la 2Peter 2, like TF, the Moonies, Scientology,etc).
Huxley rejected a straw man argument against his own easily rejectable and philosophically dishonest version of "christianity", took hallucinogenics for a while (see his book, "The Doors of Perception"), and then rejected Hindu-Gnosticism, coining the term "A-Gnostic"; meaning "I'm definitely NOT GNOSTIC!". He inspried me to become temporarily nihilistic in college; it literally led nowhere; as I alluded.
CS Lewis hadb also rejected Hindu-Gnosticism which he fouind philosophically ridiculous, and, on a motorcycle ride across London, was "brought struggling and kicking into the Kingdom of God; the most reluctant convert in all of England".
So was I, AFTER the yoga realities ministered by demons--again, a long story, if anyone's interested. I had a yoga demon rebuked out ofo me by a "baby Christian".
Anyway, most of those pretending to be members of the University-level "Intelligencia" and who want to pretend access to a set of data already proving the Hinduistic "Big Bang/Big Crash/Big Bang/Big Crash/Infinite Dharmic Wheel" model, go on to argue circularly that Chaos is found in both the "macro" and "micro" world, the latter of which is used by them to join to an "incomplete middle" of probability math of Quantum mechanics, loosely tied to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
This is all done in a very "Presto--Change-O" method by, for instance, editors of "Science" magazine in books like "50 Principles of Physics, and Why You Really Need To Know Them".
Like the recent movie "Avatar" shows (NOT a strange word/concept to Bhakti Yoga--the Hare Krishna kind) the prevailing Antichrist belief system that is coming wil ASSUME the "God is all and all is One"; ignoring the existence of evil, and promoting the same triple lie of
1-"Hath God said"--A god not big enough to give true and complete revelation is real and the real God isn't, and cannot be trusted
1-"Ye shalll not surely die"-- (reincarnation/transmigration), literal "lights out" spiritually occurred IMMEDIATELY, as warned, and needed redemtion from the "Lamb slain from the foundationn of the earth".
2-"Ye shall be as Gods"--that a competition to "become as God" ever even existed--SELF-DEIFICATION/"Actualization" through hyperconsciousness experiences/union with "angels of light" and of their of "enlightenment plus good works" trap of self-glorifying self-righteousness.
No thanks--been there, done that & got the T-shirt!
More later.
OT2