I hope you are not upset with me. I was only trying to be fair and I honestly was not taking sides. I always try to balance things out and sometimes I take the wrong route or my intentions are not clear. I hope you understand. I certainly know what it's like to not be able to stomach anything bible oriented or smacking of religious "holier than thou" dogmas. I still can't pick up a bible and read it. I tried and tried and tried and finally gave up completely. I do like to hear theories, however, that clean up some of the mess religion/berg/fundamentalism has put me in. I particularly liked George and Woody's help on the whole patriarchal thing and stuff they sent me from Joyce Meyers. That was tremendously helpful to me. I hope you find the same help.