In Reply to: Questions to Bryan, reposted posted by Donny on December 19, 2002 at 10:30:23:
Hi Donny, The Lord Jesus bless you and fill you with His peace. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner, I sensed that you were upset and I needed some time in prayer, about how to best answer your questions. In addition I needed to tract down some information for you, re: the Vineyard. (see the optional link)('Testing the Fruit of the Vineyard' by Solid Rock Christian Fellowship)
Ok here goes.
(1)How do you equate hypnosis with the occult?
Hypnosis is a very old occult practice that Satan his managed to make somewhat respectable as a so called therapeutic aid. It involves lulling a person into a relaxed state (or trance) so they let down their guard, allowing suggestions to bypass their normal critical faculties of judgement. Mass hypnosis works along the same principles but employs music, lights, and a pre invoked faith and expection in the practitioner to perform some extra ordinary feat. For example there are quite a number of evangelists who will 'not', I repeat, will,'not' go before a crowd to preach(?) unless there has been a sufficient amount of time dedicated to creating the right state of mind among those present. This involves creating a highly emotional state most often using music. (often repetitious) When people get excited they tend not to think as clearly as they would otherwise. Now, to put this in proper perspective; Alot of churches follow that pattern nowadays, but they are not necessarily trying to manipulate anybody. Now let me ask you a question. Does a person need to be in a certain emotional state of mind to simply believe the truth? If a person is sad can they believe the truth? If happy? If angry? The Holy Spirit of God is the Spirit of Truth and can reach anyone, anywhere irregardless of their emotional condition. So you see it is not necessary to generate a heightened emotional state in order to preach the gospel. The scriptures call hypnosis, 'charming' in, (Deut.18:10-12) and it is listed among other occult practices that the Lord calls abominations. (The Hebrew word for 'charm' is 'cheber' and in Strongs dictionary (#2267, 2266,)it is defined as to 'enchant'.)The root word that this one comes from, is, 'chabar' meaning to, 'fascinate' or 'cast a spell'. 'Chabar' also means to join together.
(by emotional bonding?) The following link is to a website put up by a man who used to be part of Benny Hinn's ministry. He saw some really strange things going on and spent years investigating him. http://www.fakefaithhealers.com/Mesmer.htm
(2)How will hypnosis bring about the NWO and the rise of the Antichrist?
Hypnosis is only one tool that is being used. Mainly, it is just a matter of convincing people that a world government is a good and necessary thing. Hitler used mass hypnosis, big time. It worked for him.
(3)You left the COG/Family years too early. What you are saying here became our steady spiritual diet in the Mo Letters year after year. We learned lots about the Illuminati and the UN in the cult. They were the cult's "greatest enemies". How is it that you and Berg are speaking almost identically on this subject?
Many godly pastors (check out Tex Marrs ministry, 'The Power of Prophesy') and saints have been warning the body of Christ about these things for decades and it is all very well documented. Some of the information however, about the Illuminati is actually disinformation. I suspect that David Berg was simply using some of that material, and in any case, that doesn't mean it isn't true. I don't know how much garbage he mixed in with his version of it, but it would be interesting to research such. Is any of his stuff online?
(4)Billy Graham run by occult hypnotizers? Well, this really is a new one. How does Billy hypnotize people? What is occult about what he teaches?
I can't say that Billy Graham is being manipulated in that manner or that he is actually hynotizing anyone. I don't recall indicating that. I don't really know and I have no evidence to support that. I haven't found anything in his writings that I would call, "occult".
This is what, I do know about him, and you should really check this stuff out on the net. First of all Billy Graham has publically stated that some good people in the world who have never heard the gospel or accepted Jesus as Savior are saved anyway. Mormons? JWs? Hindus? That is a big lie. Why even bother preaching the gospel, if people can be saved without it? I'll give you a little background information on Billy Graham's ministry.
When he was a young preacher in California, he was about to pack it in, because, not many people were coming to hear him preach. All of a sudden newspaper reporters started swarming the place. They said. "You have just been kissed by William Randolf Hearst." (The newspaper Baron)(occultist)
Hearst's orders to his staff were, "Puff Graham". That means in newspaper lingo, "Make him into a big star." I suspect that Billy was already a member of the Freemasons back then, (He is now a 33 degree Mason)and some higher ups figured they could play him like a fiddle. He is promoting and leading people into
the Catholic Church, in opposition to the Lord who says, "Come out of her my people that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receive not of her plagues." Alot of what Billy preaches is sound; the main deception is that he is covering up for the, "Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth" and sending people back in.
Billy Graham's son in law (a minister) made arrangements to spend some days alone with Billy in a motel because he was very concerned about him. He warned him that some powerful people in the world were attempting to take over his ministry and use him. After a number of days pleading with him over certain compromises and telling him to, watch out, Billy looked down at the floor, and said, 'You are too late.'
(5)You say:
"In 1982? (around there) the Lord showed me the inside of a Vineyard church and told me what was going on in there. IE. He (the Lord)was in there but the church was in big trouble because through false doctrine the believers (some of them were born again) were being subverted."
(see optional link first)
The Lord showed you? Did you receive a vision? Or did His Spirit whisper in your ears? Frankly, I would have been more impressed if you had argued that they didn't live according to the Word and had cited chapter and verse to make your case, but to say that "the Lord showed you" makes your opinion seem very subjective. Could you please state how God showed you?
Back then, I was attending a Pentecostal church,
and had spent a number of days in intense prayer and reading the word of God. The one evening I attended a bible study with the pastor, at the home of couple that was attending the same church. While I was in there, the Spirit of the Lord came upon me and I prophesied for almost two hours. I never heard any voice and the Lord has never spoken to me in that way, that is, 'audibly'. The Lord has always spoken to me through His Word and in my spirit. (That is, when I am not being stubborn and stiffnecked.) What happened that night, just blew me away. There was actually no visions and no voice. The Lord was just putting the knowledge directly into my heart.(spirit) Yet in some ways it was like actually being in the future. There was nothing vague however about what I received. I was absolutely sure that everything I prophesied would happen. I watched the things, that were revealed that night, come to pass one after another for almost twenty years, and it has always been, bang right on. One of the things that was prophesied back then was WW3 - very soon now. For more details check out the following link. http://crossspot.net/ldprophet/Warning.html
(That {the prophesying} only happened the one time and while I may speculate about some things, You are not going to hear a,'Thus saith the Lord." out of me if He hasn't spoken to me.(ps Don't hold your breath!)You have His Word and the Holy Spirit to guide you.) Most Christians these days, don't even believe in the gift of prophesy. Can't say I can blame them, there are so many false prophets running around these days running a, 'revelation of the month club', or scamming people with, "Can I tell you, the Lord's will for you?" (only $19.95) Anyway, I am not asking for your money, or looking for any praise, (What's to praise anyway, I am only an ordinary guy with an very extra-ordinary and holy, Lord.)and I certainly won't ask you to follow me. (Actually, I get lost sometimes, it is not too hard to do in this cesspool of a world.) (I am not a pastor anyway.) Just follow Jesus. Signing off for now.
The Lord bless you, Bryon