In Reply to: even if... posted by ray on November 08, 2002 at 11:22:53:
His Lord was not in the Bible. His Lord had sex with Mary and Martha and even had venerial dease. He denied the Holy Spirit by promoting sex as a way to lure men to his god. His god has nothing in common with Jesus except the name.
You have many verses on false teachers ray, they weren't put in there for us to ignore. If you want to turn your head and look the other way and pretend they are not applicable then that is up to you. But those warnings are there for a reason, not just to point the finger and say 'you're going to hell', but to realise that hey if I'm like what these verses are talking about, then I know that my fate is not heaven.
As far as luther and calvin are concerned, I really don't know them as I know berg. But I'm not sure they were saved, they could have been some of the first false prophets, in that they helped divide the church.
I speak what I do know Ray, Jesus warned us of false teachers, and Berg was as false as they get. Even his simple salvation was off. It is not that I'm judging everyone pointing my finger at all and accusing everyone or even thinking about who goes to hell and who doesn't. But in the matter of Berg, his willingless to lead us to sin, his willingness to set himself as god (when he said his words were more important then the Bible) all point to his direction. and it isn't heaven.
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