In Reply to: Re: See-MORE? A cautious response to James posted by James Seemore on November 01, 2005 at 14:07:29:
"James":
You wrote:
"Do you think I would be crazy enough to post my real name? James Seemore is just a name I quickly picked for myself before I started posting.
Is OT2 your real name? Give me a break!
Oh, and in choosing Seemore I don't think I was trying to make some sort of a statement that I was more spiritual then you. That's a good example where some people just want to brow beat a person any way they can, just to sound important, cover their inability to have a civil conversation or due to a lack of brains."
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My response:
James, Acheick & All:
Yeah--what she said.
James:
You admit you picked the name yourself; regardless, and here you are making my point for me.
I, myself, picked Simon and Jonathan, at different times while in TF, because, at the time I wanted to be near Jesus, and to become like Him, despite a personality rather like Peter's, and an unfortunate desire to be like, yecch, ptooie, David Berg at the time. I met him in Cuernavca, Mexico--little wormy guy with dead eyes like a shark, and a crappy little beard, nothing like the cartoons of a lion, of all things--more of a hyena.
“See-more” speaks for itself--maybe God is now giving you a chance to finally see what you should about Himself, His real Son, and His real people?
You obviously picked your own pseudonym, as you admit—do you even know why this one in particular?
James is a whole book in the Bible, and he was Jesus’ half-brother through their mother, Mary.
James backslid from grace and joined the self-righteous group of Jewish elites (hint, hint!)that said you had to cut the foreskin off your pecker AND believe in Jesus to be saved—-nice legacy to follow, I must say.
If you “picked it quickly” there’s a reason—most likely the one I first stated.
And, no, I don’t think you are organically insane. In that case, you would not be responsible, IMHO, for the bad religious decisions you’ve obviously made for your life, at this time.
You are responsible for these, and are responsible for your children, and will answer specifically to God.
He led me out on Independence Day, 1974, after an all-night session where his Spirit brought terror (Paul: “…knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men…”), not confirmation of Berg’s demonic pseudo-christian prophecies about himself which were actually Messianic prophecies—Israel was variously called Jacob, Rachel (“Rachel is weeping…”) as well as David—DUH! Read it & weep—you’ve been conned, like the rest of us; little bro—-by men and devils.
And this is not a brow-beating, and as Acheick said, your response to me was a cheat and a distraction from answering my direct question, which are part of a reproof and an exhortation (remember the Set Card verse in 1Timothy?).
You are claiming the same ridiculously self-important drivel/crap we all used to about Berg & his belief system. Quit being a wimp—grow up and think for yourself.
I invite you to have further conversations—in fact, please write me at my personal email address if you prefer privacy, and I’ll tell you my real name.
Acheick and I already correspond. She’s a great lady—intelligent, compassionate, and has successfully raised a VERY BIG brood of children OUTSIDE of TFI—you could learn a great deal from her strength and courage, as well as her truthfulness; which you do lack; admit it.
I applaud your courage in coming here in the first place—but, remember the verse in Ecclesiastes—“If running with the footmen has tired you, how shall you fare with the horsemen?”. There are posters here who will eat your lunch for the position you are taking.
I'm just trying to talk to you man-to-man.
The reason it seems like browbeating, is that there are literally NO MEN in TFI—they’re all ball-less Berg/Zerby drones.
Did you know that after mating with the drones, that the queen bee literally snaps off their genitalia, and you can actually hear the “Pop!” sound, if you’re a beekeeper? Wouch!
Hmmm-female leader uses males to increase her mindless Queendom, then neuters and destroys them--just like you and Zerby, and you are letting her!
Let’s see—a female not related to you by blood or marriage has told you where, when and how often to stick your pecker where she wants you to, with results not in your favor--hmmm.
Neat; huh? Now, picture what Zerby’s already done to YOUR cojones; little bro.
That’s called sarcasm and irony, little bro—the prophets used it—the real ones. IT’s legal, and it’s not browbeating.
Civil conversations have rules, and as Acheick pointed out, YOU are not following them.
It doesn’t take a genius to believe and spout Berg/Zerby doctrines. At any intelligence level, it just takes a sucker; which all of us here were, at one time.
Oh, and the last intelligence test I took was a Wechsler Scales exam, and I scored in the upper one percent of the nation; believe it or not; higher than what Berg claimed for himself. It just goes to show you, even highly intelligent people can be conned.
You can still be a smart test-taker, and an utter fool. Don’t be--—leave the cult, and we’ll all try to help you have the cult leave you, as we’re able. For real.
Just start thinking for yourself.
Abraham Lincoln said that you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
Choose your category, little bro; choose your category.
Sincerely,
OT2 (OldtimerToo--been there, done that, got the "I'm with STUPID==>" tee-shirt!!!)