Regarding Abrahim/Berg and Co. posts

Posted by Judy's Response on January 19, 2006 at 16:54:06

From Judy, ex Shula

"This post about the threesome romp at the ranch and when Berg got the gift of tongues has some truth in it. 'Berg latched onto the idea with enthusiasm', same as he latched onto the David of the end-time idea that Joab,Happy had. And then started a whole David series. Berg said Joab had the prophesy. Then later Joab said that he never meant it to be taken like he said it.

Berg was very good at PICKING UP ON ANY CREATIVE IDEA, no MATTER WHO STARTED IT, and running with it.

It was I am sure a COLLABORATION in the end the way the gypsy series came out, since the whole series was published years later. Though Berg talked about Abrahim way back at the ranch. People put ideas into the drunks head, and then Berg did like the guy said when he quoted "PAPER POWER" ----WORKED ON IT. Berg obviously elaborated on it more, dramatized it, and like someone said 'IT TOOK ON A LIFE OF IT'S OWN and became another way of MANIPULATING us' to believe things we would have otherwise had trouble accepting.

Berg had a SCHIZOPHRENIC side to him in that he got these DELUSIONS saw them as ways to manipulate people, and after a while they became FIXED DELUSIONS, in which he was totally DECEIVED BY THEM HIMSELF. The whole gypsy thing appealed to him because the gypsies were DROP OUTS OF SOCIETY, and lived off their music (and the real gypsies in history off prostitution too) which modern people don't know. People in East Europe hate gypsies because they were also THIEFS, and lowlives. But to Americans who know nothing of the real gypsies of history they have more glorified idea of travel and music, and mystical palms reading, fortune telling, crystal ball stuff, that fed into a lot of people who came out of the occult.

I used to write poetry, and then have some grammar errors, and Jane(Mother Eve) once told me to correct some words and the poem would be better. I told her if I changed the words than the poem wouldn't be inspired. Jane said, "BERG WORKS ON HIS POETRY AND WORDS AFTER HE GETS THEM UNDER INSPIRATION TO CORRECT THEM, AND MAKE THEM BETTER, AND GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT."

Maria seemed to know her grammar pretty well. And Maria UNDERSTOOD THE POWER OF PAPER POWER.

But the whole importance behind the Abrahim series is that is where Berg INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF SPIRIT HELPERS. That is the DECEPTIVE STARTING POINT of the whole spirit helper concept. IT WAS AN INDRODUCTION OF THE OCCULT INTO THE CULT. It was totally DEMONIC. Because the Bible says in Deuteronomy 18:10-11 There shall not be found amoung you ANY ONE that maketh his son and his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a WITCH(Maria),11 Or a charmer, OR A CONSULTER OF FAMILIAR SPIRITS, or a wizard, or a necromancer."

Definition of NECROMANCY- "The art of conjuring up the spirits of the dead for the purposes of magically revealing the future2)magic, sorcery."

Now I had been this little Baptist Church girl who though I had gone to church all my life had never heard of this stuff being a sin. The Baptist church was great on salvation and evangelism, but it didn't teach a lot on the HOLY SPIRIT, or GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT. And because up until the 1960's when PANDORA'S BOX was opened by the DRUG WORLD and EASTERN RELIGIOUS IDEAS WERE INTRODUCED INTO AMERICA, the Church never had to deal with such stuff. I was ignorant.

And of course most people who joined hadn't hardly ever gone to church. So we were easy prey to be deceived due to our LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORD.

I have no doubt that what Deb said in her book when she drove Berg to visit the gypsy leader that he may well have CONTACTED AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM HIM. TO ADD TO SOME OF THE EVIL SPIRITS HE ALREADY HAD. Obviously Berg was a pedifile and had some powerful demons before this time.

The thing is, after the Abrahim thing was started, many many letters supposedly were INSPIRED BY ABRAHIM. Berg was a drunk, and he wrote, "Abrahim has a drinking problem". And I think the Abrahim spirit came out a lot with the SEX stuff. BERG WAS ACTUALLY DECEIVED IN MANY WAYS HIMSELF.

As far as CREATIVITY there are two kinds. The genuine which is from God in which the Holy Spirit gives an idea that came from Heaven. Like Aaron told me once, "All NEW IDEAS COME FROM THE SPIRIT WORLD." That is the real creativity. The second kind is RE-ARRANGING OF OLD IDEAS INTO NEW FORMS. Most people have this kind of creativity, as evidenced by just rearranging the furniture in your home. Changing the color of your hair.

But I think the Abrahim stuff started at TSC, but at a later date when Berg was drunk after TSC it was elaborated upon"