In Reply to: pointing in a direction is one thing... posted by ray on November 08, 2002 at 13:51:51:
1Ti 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: