In Reply to: Re: Referring to anyone on this board? posted by moonshiner on August 02, 2006 at 16:48:39:
MS:
First of all, in response to even polite challenges, you have retreated to mere "cut 'n' paste" reponses to specific questions regarding the viability of "dogmatic atheism", as a clandestine "appeal to authority" (ad bacculum, in Latin). You also made several ad hominem attacks, yourself, along the way; if you'll be honest.
I do not respond with ad hominem arguments, to your massive "cutting and pasting" of, yes, some occasionally interesting articles written exclusively by the "dogmatic atheists" you apparently follow and like to massively quote, but can't discuss and explain, or answer questions about (Hmmm--where did we ALL see that oh-so-familiar behavior pattern?--oh, yeah--TFI!), I analyze them from my own experientially based and well-reasoned point of view, which you do not like, because you definitely are a "dogmatic atheist", which, within the field of analytical philosophy, is termed a "religion"--it's ABOUT God, it's just AGAISNT Him in any form--in universities around the world; not just horribly evangelical America (where polls show the majority are NOT "dogmatic atheists)--see (http://wikitravel.org/en/United_States_of_America.
Oh, yeah--the USA does lead the world in science, especially recently.
SO---to further examine your quoted "organic atheism" weak hypothesis--let's see--that might indicate a direct comparison of the US with Europe--Hmmm--here's something from another chat board:
"The next time some jackboot thug marches over Europe we should first ask an international body if we can come to Europe's aid. Time and again we have bailed Europe out, propped up their currency, defended them for years against the tide of communism, now when we ask for help they spit on the USA. [It's] Time we told the Europeans, we are nationalizing all of your assets in the USA, we are pulling out of NATO, you handle Kosovo, and the next time you have a crisis call your Palestinian friends or Iraq to bail you out. Oh one last thing, no more imports from Europe to the USA. You really want to kill Europe, allow unlimited numbers of native Europeans under the age of 50 to immigrate to the US. In ten years the only people left in the EU will be Oma and the moslems they imported to clean up after her."
"We (the USA) do not need Europe. The next time some jack boot thug comes marching across Europe go call someone else to waste their youth, treasury and technology to save your beloved mess. I guess we (the USA) never freed Europe from the NAZIS, I guess we (the USA) repeatedly have not propped up the European economy over the last 55 years. I guess we (the USA) did not have a Marshall plan to get Europe and Japan out of the grave. What has Europe given the world over the last 100 years? Nazism and millions of dead, Communism and millions of dead, liberal socialism and millions enslaved."
"What has the USA given the world, 89% of all inventions in the world since 1860. The USA has lead the world in science, agriculture, landing on the moon, the airplane, the telephone, etc... Jazz, blues, country music, most rock n roll, culture, billions of our treasury in aid.
"We saved the world in Two World Wars, rebuilt most of Europe's economy and that of the rest of the world, feed a huge percent of the world, and did I mention all the aid we give? "
"Oh did I forget the wonderful colonies, imperial wars, and an over stuffed self opinion of Europe that has caused most of the problems the world faces today? Yes, EUROPE caused most of the problems the world faces today. I, and most of my fellow Americans are tired of saving Europe from its ignorant arrogant self.
Europe's future is a socialist joke. You have no future worth bragging about."
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That's AMERICANS at 80% Christian who have done that, versus Europeans with their much lower percentage of professed Christians, and higher incidence of atheism--YOU DO THE MATH; Moonshiner--it fails to substantiate your weak hypothesis.
Still waiting for a real answer ;-)
Respectfully,
OT2 (OldtimerToo)