OT2

Posted by WC (Gen. Coord) on October 04, 2006 at 15:00:47

Our patience with you has run out. We've banned you several times, and let you come back because we thought you needed the boards for personal reasons. We stipulated that you were allowed to use our boards pending your ability to observe our rules and guidelines - you clearly have not been able to. We gave you several chances, but each time you reverted to your usual posting manner, even ignoring the pointers we spelled out for you here: www.exfamily.org/chatbbs/genx/posts/26921.htm. We detailed your overused themes and you rejected them on the basis they did not come from WC, when they in fact did: www.exfamily.org/chatbbs/jrny/posts/9361.htm.

"Question" brought this up neutrally and politely - only something that has already been brought to your attention on a number of occasions: "other Christians share their faith without stepping on others the way you do. Do you think maybe they know something yo[u] haven't learned?" (www.exfamily.org/chatbbs/jrny/posts/9478.htm) which you, arrogantly, by your own admission, willfully ignored, saying "I do not actually value your opinion"; accusing Question of not being a Christian, and invalidating him/her for not being one. (www.exfamily.org/chatbbs/jrny/posts/9499.htm) For your information, although it is irrelevant, we happen to know Question in fact considers himself/herself a Christian.

On our boards, a point is a point, especially if it is a good one, regardless of whether it comes from a Christian or not, whether it comes from WC or not. But like a respector of persons, your position has been, "who are you to tell me anything, if you're not WC or not even a Christian?"

By now, we are convinced you just don't get it, no matter who the point comes from, no matter what is being pointed out to you, and no matter how diplomatically or sharply it is put to you. We've had to ask, reluctantly, what value do you bring to the boards? Perhaps that is a question you should be asking yourself.

You see your own value here as being a contributor of the Christian point of view, but the question is, how much Christian POV is getting across. Are your points completely lost in OT2 issues? Sadly, we think so. You have displayed an unrelenting inability, to share or contribute in a way which is not offending for many posters, Christians included.

The adverse reactions to your posts would be more, if not for the fact that few are able to read your long complicated writings anymore. Even most Christians don't read your posts. It might be surprising for you to learn but according to our records, of all the posts on our boards yours are read the least. People are generally not even reading them. Those who do click on your posts usually move on within a second or two indicating that they are not reading them, only 'marking' them as read so they no longer stand out. A majority of our nearly 200 regular readers are Christian in worldview, yet they are not reading your posts. Very few people apart from the coordinators read what you write. This is what the logs show us.

We can't make it any clearer than this: of all the regular posters here, YOU, OT2, are the one breaking most of the rules, most of the time. You are the one that we have to monitor the most, the cause for most concern. So it's really out of place for you to constantly cry foul.

There was nothing wrong with each and every one of Question's very valid questions to you, which you belittled and refused to answer. Not with their format either, which seems to have been to encourage you to answer to each point one-on-one, an inability you have repeatedly displayed, but yet accuse others of. The questions very relevantly dealt with your interpretation of the rules. But you proved once again, you were unable to answer questions simply, and resorted to debate, counter tactics and recriminations.

It is also uncanny the way you harrass others and cry harrassment. Question's posting several posts with a single question in each is not necessarily harrassment - had the same single poster followed you around for a time, responding to every post of yours, uninvited, unsolicited, that would be harrassment. However, that description would better fit something you tend to do.

Time and again we and others have pointed out to you the rules and guidelines of Journeys, which you have been in flagrant violation of:

Not a pulpit. Repeated unsolicited advice and instruction will not be considered dialogue nor discussion, but rather preaching - this is not a platform for preachers with a "mission" to instruct - it is a place to share your experience as fellow journeymen.

Not only do you fail to observe the rules, lack tact and have poor communication skills, you have not understood the spirit of the way things work here. Yet you take the liberty of instructing others, often errantly, about the site's management and purpose. Time and again, you have described WC as a dictator, when he has tried to build consensus and democratically serve the needs of ex-members. Your "insight" into the staff paranoically describes anti-Christian factions of coordinators, unfair junior coordinators singling you out, etc. Ironically, you are the only person we have bent over backwards so much for, giving you several chances at doing better.

OT2, we are hereby placing you on a 3 week time-out.

Nobody is asking you to change your convictions, just your style. Contribute, not Crusade.

Sincerely,

WC and exFamily.org Coordinators