Posted by Farmer on December 14, 2010 at 11:03:07
In Reply to: Re: Compare with the teachings of Jesus posted by Pastor Don on December 14, 2010 at 05:44:57:
PD...as much as I appreciate most of the times your biblical stance and posts...I do have a problem ...just personally... with this "mantra" of not reading the Bible in context...in TFI that is
May be they are some...or many...who haven't read
in TFI through the Bible...I encountered just few who I asked/knew...strange as it seemed to me then.
Now though I uphold as you how important it is to read the context...possible the etymology of the words within, parallel verses...plus the standard
hermeneutical rule, that verses which are harder to understand must be understood in the light of the rest, which literally etc makes sense...as you all know that.
We didn't have these hermeneutical rules spelled out, but we applied some of it here and there.
I did read the Bible through within the first 6 months in TF and then always different books as project...
Now why is it that scholars, who know all these hermeneutical rules, having the finest grasp of all languages of the biblical age...do come up with all kinds of crappy interpretations: this NT letter is apocryph...Daniel is not really a prophet having lived in captivity and all the rest...comes around Tel Aviv archeologist Finkelstein and others and people like to have it "confirmed, that the history of the people of Israel wasn't as portrayed in the Bible....(there are other Israeli archeologists, who object..TG)
people do all kinds of eisegesis...reading into the text, by their preconceived ideas/notions...reading with teinted glasses...I am not sure, which Bible interpreter/teacher is then more dangerous...Berg and the others deceiving as well...I think though Berg ranks top or close to the top, because he wrecked havoc on innocent children's lives with his perverted sexual appetite...
I consider group dynamics, also instilled/furthered by group laws the most powerful influence on my/our understanding of the Bible...you don't say so easily no to an interpretation if others say yes and most of all the "prophet" says yes...(since you like/love the people you live with...plus the basic message...plus this thing...to who else should we go...worked for ages on me)
Origenes thought of I think 3 ways of interpreting a verse/portion...literally... hyperbolically...
the third doesn't come to my mind right now
Origenes is known for having believed...among the first...in universal reconciliation...
others write up a storm against that....know what I mean?
The Holy Spirit and obedience of the believer are a must in knowing...where the truth is...and His words they are the truth and spirit and life
In TFI might have been the Holy Spirit at work...but the obedience to the Word in main issues...see the sex-issues...was/is missing.
Even the dispensationalists claim, that people don't get the message of the Bible, because they don't discern the times the message was given in or to who addressed etc....rightly dividing the word of truth.
I am not going along with all they say, but I learned quite a few things here and there
Where would that Bible school be, where everything is taught right and practised?...unfortunately we learn well/best...through errors and I learned for sure some more through the hard/false way...TFI