Posted by Farmer on December 19, 2010 at 04:48:24
In Reply to: Re: Sorry, Don, this is not personal... posted by Passing By on December 18, 2010 at 23:43:59:
Passing by...nice you had/have a stop over ; )...nice to have you here...I personally find it hard to judge who is a brother (the Bible mentions false brethren) and who is not...I like to give people in this the benefit of the doubt (at few times "probing" others, as I do scrutinise myself...looking into the mirror...the Word)......take the problem of a burn out and depression, which also happens among church-people and I know some personally...since Jesus promised to lift our burdens if we come to Him...I do wonder at times why it is not happening for some for pretty long?...is His arm shortened, that He cannot help???Can't be...I think it's possible to be "down" over a stretch of time...but sometime there should come the "vic" for His children...
with that I meant...the Bible is also practical for His children...there are benefits through obedience and there are also duties...and there are consequences for disobedience...
Some people you mentioned...claimed to really be "seeing"/understanding...that's why I call their gospel gnosticladen (happened also in the early times of Christianity)...they would very much like to see but they are at best fleshly..Paul meant in 1.Cor. 3: 1-3 young children, babes in Christ...not being able to handle meat...they (TFI) pride themselves of having the meaty stuff...that's the biggest deception...it's the other way round...their very poor miserable performance...on the sexual level e.g./mostly...just plainly reveals where they are at.I am no saint either and tremble at the thought of the judgement seat of Christ...but I have not performed those worst things regarding children (sexual abuse...calling that love...how dared we believe the [false] "prophet"...I shudder...well I came from flower power "worship"...over esoteric stuff and asian philosophy/religion to the false prophet Berg) they did and hopefully don't anymore....in verse 16 it mentions being the temple of God...Paul also mentions in verse 16 of chap 6 to not become one with a whore...making her then one with the body of Christ, unthinkable for Paul...not for the deceived though...or babes in Christ...fleshly people) ...you can quench the Spirit...sadden Him...Jesus wept over Jerusalem too...the shortest verse in the Bible from what I remember/know.
So Berg wished to have been super anointed and wise...at the very best he is saved and repented before death...who knows..God...I don't
So in thinking to be so wise and being disobedient to the scripture which is as plain as day he went off in dangerous deception and we with him until we woke up.He thought to see but through disobedience was darkened in His understanding....thank God for the truth which sets you free...though in everything not overnight...1.Cor 13 teaches us/me...the way I see it, that God being the very core of love Himself...being very longsuffering...but not endlessly...there is a time of judgement and people seem to forget that in their grandeur...taking that for a change very personally and not only applying that for "their enemies" or others one doesn't like etc.