Perry's post on Gen X re; Jim Palosaari


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Posted by on June 02, 2011 at 16:52:28

Perry:

I started to post right after your post on Gen X, but figured my content probably fit better over here at Journeys. So, here goes:

I met Palosaari in Oregon in the mid-seventies; a couple years after my leaving TF. He & his group were touring and showing the "Brother Sun & Sister Moon" film, and recruitiung just like TF used to.

They played at a local bar in Eugene, mostly non-offenisve "worldly" songs like "I Got The Music In Me", with some Larry Norman, etc., thrown in--pretty corny. And they assumed I was "backslidden" because I wasn't THEM. A Christian friend had told me they'd be there, and I had gone to support them.

I also got some really rough treatment form Keith Green himself, when I tried to move my impoverished family to California. I asked him if he actually worte "Asleep in the Light"--one of its lyrics was "Jesus came to your door, and you left Him out on the streets! Can't you see it's such sin?!" Not my favorite celebrity christian, although he was certainly that to the entire contemporary christian world, at the time. Hmm. He purposely overloaded his own private airplane and accidentally killed himself and several other people--I guess he found the laws of physics did apply to him as well.

"Servant", et al, were extremely self-righteous; sorry to say. You were, to them, either godless heathen, a "Jesus Fan" (i.e. lukewarm by their definition), or them (or about to become them to escape the shame of being "useless to God"--the Luke 14:33, and Acts 2 & Acts 4 verses were used to guilt people into joining them, and giving control of all monies, families and romantic relationships to the Palosaaris--sound familiar?



In another post (moved to Journeys from the Academic page), I wrote:

"On the communal thing--Linda Meisner, Russ Griggs, Jack Sparks, The JPUSA/Servant Band led by Jim Palosaari, German Jesus People, etc., all made the same mistake. Like Walter Martin, the cult expert, once said, "Christian communes hardly ever have worked out, throughout history--some kind of self-righteousness, selfishness or perversion kills them--some false doctrine, or overemphasis...", or words to that effect.

When Christ was born, there was "no room at the inn". Similarly, fifty days after the Feast of Tabernacles, Jerusalem was crowded, too, and 8,000 plus people had just entered the Kingdom of God, and would soon be traveling back to their respectives homes all over the known world.

And they worked when they got there--no mooching, busking, lying/begging, etc.

And, by the time Paul wrote the Thessalonians, to tell them that, if they insisted on abusing the Lord's Supper by using it to overeat and get drunk, that they had "their own homes" to do that in--proof-text for no more communal life necessary for "100% discipleship".

The "Jesus People" bought into Berg's doctrines in more ways than one--communalism forces a situation where their are seducers who "are sensual, separating themselves, and NOT having the Spirit". End of story."

No free sex/pedophilia/incest on purpose, but just about every other error--what a shame!


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