Posted by Farmer on August 14, 2011 at 12:18:16
In Reply to: Re: Idealistic, vulnerable, and finally, compartmentalizing. posted by MG on August 09, 2011 at 17:44:14:
But the fact was is that they were forced to send that missive for adult/child sharing to stop because at one of the first teen camps in Mexico when they told the teens to write freely about what their biggest personal problems and trials were, just about everyone of the young girls wrote that the thing that they were the most freaked out about was having be
I think this is an important quote of yours and "Mexico" initiated some changes in TFI
First of I want to say, that the Hippie culture in itself had some stupidities of their own...to glorify that would be a crime from my christian perspective...make love/peace not war sounds idealistic...but from the little I gathered in retrospective of children who grew up in non-TFI-hippie communes...I think they "suffered" too to various degrees.There was little "fixed" as a guideline---all seemed possible and debatable...debate being kind of the "religion"...brainstorming...all is relative...
Some years ago I saw a youtube clip of some hippie jam session...with some celebrities performing...nearby was the beach...they had a swimming-pool on the compound...children running @...and some were stark naked...I think lots of small children "watched" their parents while lovemaking in certain communes...and it didn't have to be Bhagwan or such sorts.
I recently thought about my pre- TFI-morals and though I entered into TFI a "virginity"...nevertheless...I thought/dreamed the adulterous/fornicators way...not christian at all...which I wasn't.
One example is how I viewed the film the graduate, watching it before joining TFI:
Nowadays I shudder at the plot...then it didn't make "any difference" for me...such is the "progress"...sin as such is forgiveable...but then it has to be discovered as such and forgiveness has to be sought/if one cares about the Christian eternity...repentance is something not really taught that much IMO...TFI gets also "along" without that.
Personally I have a hard time believing, that where there were teenagers in the 80ies in home...that it didn' eventually lead to sharing sexually...equally awkward I think was the forced sharing schedule with other teenagers...peers...
Adult/teen-sharing I have personally not come across in a home...being "in" until late 80ies, though I was "granted permission" to share with a teen at that time...which I didn't...TG
I think the morals of the hippie-culture were sexually...openly...liberal...they flaunted that liberty...and I am starting to have my doubts...whether Berg really hated the "filthy" hippies...who was he?...may be a supposed clean-freak...but not that much..."napkins on the floor" to be picked up later ; ) I think he "rather fell in love" with the beautiful hippie-women of that time...frankly I prefer long hair to anything the hair-dressers come up with