In Reply to: Re: skies are red posted by Passing By on June 05, 2008 at 21:07:06:
It is clear that you have completely misunderstood me and the reason why I wrote that post clarifying that I am not anti-American. I'll get to your specific errors in a moment.
First though, your post made me wonder if you were just trying to goad me and I began to wonder if you are one of those Family apologists who show up here from time to time to stir things up. So I reread the current conversation on the GenX board between you and sia nara to see if I could glean any further info about you.
It's a bit difficult dealing with people using pseudonyms and that GenX thread is an example. In it the person calling themselves sia nara also spells that name as saya nara. I assume it is the same person, but can't really be certain. Likewise, in that thread there is a post from Passing and then there are further posts from Passing By. Again, I assume it's the same person, but I can't be certain. There have been incidences here where current cult members or their supporters have posted seemingly as one person, but suspicions arose as to whether or not several people were posing as one person.
Then this morning I read your(?) reply to sia nara referencing Berg and the CIA and noticed sia nara's confusion over whether you were being sincere or not, which led me to further question your authenticity.
However, I have now reread several times your reply to me here and have concluded that you probably are an exmember, but just have poor reading comprehension skills.
For example, you state: "You ask me if I am anti-American." No, I never asked you that. Questions end with question marks. Read my post again. I simply wondered if you are, I did not ask you. My wonder was related to my surprise at your quoting Family doctrine, but I don't care whether or not you or anyone else are anti-American. The sole purpose of my post was to clarify my own position regarding America and my rejection of the cult's beliefs concerning it. I was not, as you preposterously claim, defending my status of not being anti-American. I was merely clarifying that despite all the apparently anti-American articles I have posted links to on my website and occasionally here, I am not anti-American. I was deliberately distancing myself from family teachings, explaining that one can point out the failings of the American state without being anti-American.
Your next error, and its a huge one, is that you have incorrectly assumed that I'm trying to silence you or anyone from expressing their views about America or TF cult. It's outrageous that you would accuse me of behaving cultishly based on your inability to correctly read my post. I remind you again that it was you who quoted Family doctrine.
And if you had bothered to look at my web page on the decline of American democracy I referred to in my post you wouldn't have had to ask me "...if it is anti-American to oppose wrong behaviors, or to silence voices that oppose cultural behaviors, such as that type of killings?" What a ridiculous questions to ask me. (by the way, if you had also bothered to look up the word "cultic" you would see it is a word)
But you didn't stop there. You essentially accuse me of trying to silence the opinions of others, and accuse me of being cultic and a zombie. Other than my wondering aloud why you would quote a Family prophecy and if it meant you had retained some of the cult's teachings regarding America, there is nothing in my post directed to you; no unwarranted questions, no accusations, no personal animosity. The same can't be said for your post.
I was simply taking the opportunity that your quoting a Family prophecy gave me to discuss my own journey away from cultic thinking with regard to America. Unfortunately, your inability to correctly read my post led you to make weak assumptions and take the low road of slinging offensive accusations.