sorry

Posted by farmer on July 15, 2010 at 11:11:25

In Reply to: Re: TULIP posted by Farmer on July 15, 2010 at 10:07:34:

the intertwining...mixing...addressing of Isrealites and believers out of the nations happens of course already from Romans 9:16 onwards, sorry for this...but the examples are first from the patriarch's time...in Verse 22 I see definitely the AC..false prophet(s)...and including Judas?!...probably those too receiving the mark...but the question is, from which point of time, they were foreordained...

If there is a complete predestination you kind of land at a programmed lifestyle and I see that conflicting with the scriptures image of God and His love

Of course that is the great plus of Calvinism, to proclaim the absolute sovereignity of God, which I also see in those Roman chapters...particularly here in chapter 9...on the other hand one cannot disregard 1.Tim 2:4 either...sometimes reading scripture is like pondering about the duality of light or other paradoxa...the crux is for me the ending of the chapter...either one believes in Christ or one doesn't...back to the basics...many pharisees...although knowing profoundly the scripture rejected Him...they were of their father the devil...(Mt. 13 bad seed...kind of the privilege of the devil)