In Reply to: i read the link.. posted by ray on June 13, 2004 at 17:55:50:
I don't make final judgement calls.
BUT, the fact is someone like Maria, who is openly evil, preaching doctrines that corrupt the ones she is suppose to care for, there is nothing to do but to assume that she is going to hell. You don't have to be a Bible scholar to understand that.
Just reading 2 Peter 2 will confirm the fate of false teachers and prophets.
When I speak about Maria being 'toast', it is for warning, and although many are moved with out the fear of hell, some were moved by it.
Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
So although you may not understand that some are saved by 'fear' of the flame, it's never the less a fact.
I'm sure both are needed. The compassion, and the fear. They don't necessarily fight against each other. It seems to me you continually try to make it seem like I'm the consigning Maria hell and I take some personal glee out of it. Nothing could be further from truth.
I don't think with any joy that Berg is burning in hell, I only recognise that there go I but by the grace of God. That God's word is sure, his promises are all valid. That if you live as they did and preach as they did then you know what to expect, and it's not heaven.