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Posted by Farmer on July 14, 2011 at 21:48:59

In Reply to: Re: One more celebrity enticed by Hinduism posted by OT2 on July 14, 2011 at 12:34:49:

Yes I know ...too...been there too and not missing it.It's one of the many workreligions there are.
Since heaven's entrance can only be received as a gift...thanking for forgiveness in Christ...also practicing it...that's a witness (where we become too bad as a witness, life can be terminated...in analogy to the letters in the beginning of revelations)...which some get confused in still having to work for salvation, it's rather working to be a better witness...etc. etc.

I was rather amazed, that this little post got so many reactions...that is almost "gaga" ... ; )

I mean wasn't it Julie Roberts, which I posted about in like fashion...and someone else, I forgot.

Yesterday I was thinking, how strange, that I believe, in spite of all odds in my life and also the odds in finding Jesus Christ...compared to all the ones who don't seem to want the same faith...and don't want to retain that faith...see also the board here...I am a bit amazed about that I must say.


One habit I had already before joining, I was by intuition rather attracted to "stuff" which wasn't hype...from sports to academics...to music...films and even food...most of all religion...I didn't want to be mainstream...and "funny" I remain like that...

One thing I realise more and more is, how in this world you have really no friend like Jesus...loyality becomes scarcer and scarcer...people get trained under the me-first-Zeitgeist...even if it gets camouflaged at times by my ideology first...identifying oneself with a group of me-firsters...
It's going down the drain...life on earth...economically...environment-wise...morally.

I started to do more for my body...because in age...I am not sure whom you can count on for help and I want to give my body less trouble, by eating and practicing right...

I was wondering, as smart as you are, whether you have jewish blood in the veins...meant as a compliment not a slant??!

You know I had a strange experience 4 weeks ago at church...it was announced that one young church-member...in his thirties...had committed suicide.I had workmates, two.. I can remember of, who committed suicide.It's really strange, when death hits close...both my parents are dead now, but I figure, they lived to old age.
I had talked to more churchmembers in the past about depression.I was really deep down after seperation, but had the comforter.
So that's why I can't really 100% understand, what is triggering suicide...even from the viewpoint of a believer??
That young man had experience with drugs..I am not
in the know, regarding his journey...

Anyway, after service I usually have a chat and coffee with a dear brother...who suffered from job related stress of a burn out...
A couple joined us and related to the incident I said , it would be good, if the depressed had some sort of self-helping/activitiy-group...some informal gathering for exchange and support...

Later I ventured out to say, that I figure it should be with Jesus better even in the state of depression than without.That sister lady flared up as soon as I finished...
I already had a run in with her at weekend-recreation, where, drying the dishes, I simply asked her how they have arranged it in their household with the task and chores...she was indignated at such simple question...

My friend later told me, that he too misunderstood me as meaning to say, that if you have Jesus, you don't enter into depression, which what I never intended to say and I said more than I share here...

Another lady at church later shared with me, that what should be common rule in dialogue, if you fail to understand someone or are afraid you misunderstand someone...then to ask back...which she failed to do...

OT2...isn't it correct, that in any incident...situation in life...you have it better with Jesus...with the Comforter...than without???

What's wrong with that statement???

That sister maintained, that depression needs to be treated as e.g. diabetes.I have workmates who have diabetes and I think the comparison is not really correct...especially after I googled a bit about the subject of depression...often they get a
lot of conclusion by researching identical twins...the sole genetical point of view seems to be ruled out from what I read???!....so liking it to diabetes is a bit far fetched...IMO...

Anyway...may be you have some feedback on that...
appreciate and love you a whole lot...God bless you for sharing all your experiences...

even if it seems that few if any likes to listen...bit of a shame

pls. excuse the many goofs and typos...mistakes...partly due to typing on the small netbook...sorry



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