Re: workreligions..depression/suicide


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Posted by on July 19, 2011 at 20:04:44

In Reply to: Re: workreligions..depression/suicide posted by Farmer on July 14, 2011 at 21:48:59:

Farmer:
I really enjoyed hearing from you through email. Thanks!
I just put a lot of effort into researching what you asked MG, about the absence of scientific proof regarding accepting homosexuality as “biological”, as he/she put it (maybe MG is purposely androgenous?). Also, lte jumped on the bandwagon with MG’s opinion, and I gave him a long answer—I think he may even live here in Houston, with his comment about a lesbian mayor.

You said, “Since heaven's entrance can only be received as a gift...thanking for forgiveness in Christ...also practicing it...that's a witness (where we become too bad as a witness, life can be terminated...in analogy to the letters in the beginning of revelations)...which some get confused in still having to work for salvation, it's rather working to be a better witness...etc. etc.”.

I really like and agree with that comment. We really do need a real fear of God, in the way you said, as individuals and as churches. If we irreparably lose our witness, what is left?

I am amazed at some of the same things as you are.
I really do need to do more about my physical health.
You wrote: “One thing I realise more and more is, how in this world you have really no friend like Jesus...loyality becomes scarcer and scarcer...people get trained under the me-first-Zeitgeist...even if it gets camouflaged at times by my ideology first...identifying oneself with a group of me-firsters... It's going down the drain...life on earth...economically...environment-wise...morally.” I agree entirely.


I was actually discussing the “zeitgeist” you mentioned over the weekend with my stepfather—good conversation, except when he speaks like a university lecturer trying to intellectually dominate his listener(s), to make a dual apologia for both extreme political American liberalism (rampant at the universities in the US, but largely unpopular in the rest of the general population), as well as for pantheism as “ultimate reality”.


He did agree to try to help me both write and publish my life story for consumption in Christian bookstores—he agrees there is a market, and has had editors take him to task often to get him to simplify his writing for the average reader. Interesting notion—sociologists here say that average reading level is 8th grade. I would imagine Europe’s average to be a lot higher (?).


One time, a couple of years ago, my Dad sent me an email detailing how many brilliant Jews live in Israel, as tops of their scientific fields. It was truly amazing—world class brains, indeed, and very accomplished (I wish I were—trusting the wrong people has virtually ruined most of my life, so far, despite a measured high IQ. My family history is definitely that of a “mutt”—many ethnic groups and races, I’m sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of me ere Jewish.

I am convinced that the medication I was taking was causing my worsening state—there are many adds on TV warning that many meds supposedly designed to help depression can also CASUE worse depression, and suicide ideation and serious attempts. My older sister has a Psychology degree from a prestigious University, and my Mom is a retired Psychologist/Psychotherapist, and I am having a hard time convincing them that my past problems were drug-induced, by prescribed medicine. Severe-enough incidences in one’s life can cause deep depression and temptation to suicide without the presence of mental disease/disorder; obviously. My then-wife deceived me, cheated on me, and broke my heart.

There is also the reality of demons to consider.

Without Jesus, I’d be dead and in hell long ago. Having Him in my life, especially at its worst, has made all the difference in the world. And, I don’t believe the analogy to diabetes is entirely accurate—diabetes has specific physical causes, whereas there are many causes of depression, and many solutions—her viewpoint sounds too simplistic, and uneducated.


I love you, too, my brother. Thanks for communicating!

And we’re called to be witnesses, and aren’t responsible for others’ reaction to our message, so we can do what we can, and then be at peace, and leave it to God.

In Him,
OT2



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