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Do you think the Family was actually involved in Beastality?

Posted by Mekka on October 13, 2002 at 13:59:41

Bestiality.

What I am going to say next will come as a shock but maybe it shouldn't. When a well traveled Christian author and missionary that I know told me that COG members had been involved in bestiality, I couldn't believe it. I wrote back to ask him again, and double-checked. He wrote back to me again and said that yes it was true that he had met a farmer in Switzerland who had opened his farm for COG members to stay. This farmer told this missionary that the COG members that were staying on his property were involved in bestiality with his farm animals. This is still too hard for me to believe, but then why would the farmer say that? I am willing to give my informant's name and phone number to the proper legal authorities for further investigation of this very bizarre and shocking story.

FFing After 1987.

Even when the cult's hookers were contacting VD in epidemic proportions Berg still refused to stop the practice. See Berg's incredible letter on the subject titled "Afflictions". But when one or more members died of AIDs they cut back greatly. They did not stop completely having sex with outsiders however. In my booklet "Searching for Seleste" (32 pages), pp. 25, 26, I have presented clear proof showing that they did not stop completely in 1987. They made it very clear that there will still be sex with some outsiders. They were to continue having sex with some of their most important "friends." They were to use condoms with these outsiders. They termed this change of policy "The Condom Revolution." The so-called condom revolution, or this new requirement to use condoms, was at that time only when having sex with outsiders, not when having sex with other people inside the group. Presumably they may still be sexually servicing many top men in various countries and this could be part of an explanation of why the COG can get away and continue to operate in countries around the world even after all the bad media publicity, the raids and the court cases. In 1984 Berg admonished his hookers to go after the city fathers and important men. He wrote that in some countries COG girls "ffed top government officials who have it turn defended and protected" the group. He said, "See, once they have ffed some of these government officials, they not only win them, but they also win their favor and their influence and protection and defense. But also in a way the government officials have to defend us to defend themselves for fear of exposure! Once they have done it they have done it, and they can't very well accuse us when they were involved." "So that shows you what one of the most important effects...of ffing is, it can protect the whole Family in a whole country. I don't think you can possibly underestimate, or you shouldn't the value and the effectiveness, the influence and the importance of ffing....for defense, protection and giving us freedom and liberty to operate within a country." "Our ffers are our most powerful lobbyists! They literally lobby for the Family with government officials and men of influence. They had better get up to the top where men of influence can defend us and protect us when there is trouble, and trouble always comes!--at least they are on the inside and can warn us! (ML1755:1-20, [March 1984], as quoted in "Prostitution and Political Seduction - A History of FFing" by Ed Priebe, [1993], p. 7). I wonder how many politicians, judges, generals and other important men have gotten sexually involved with COG prostitutes and they are now forced to protect the group because of their interest to protect themselves and their own reputation. This practice of using sex to influence important people is nothing new for the COG. Roy Wallis, an English researcher who wrote extensively about the COG, I was shocked to find out was also involved sexually with them. That he was ffed is an absolute fact. It was common knowledge. He was having sex with a cult woman by the name of Niomie Caravan, the wife of John Caravan. This happened in San Francisco and the ex-member who gave me this information was also in San Francisco at the time.

FFing Cases After 87.

The COG ffed their lawyer in Australia in 1992. This information comes from one of the experts during the English court case, David Millikan. They cannot possibly accuse him of being an enemy or lying. Millikan wrote in a computer message in November 96, "I know of at least one lawyer in Australia who was `flirty fished' in the last four years." That means 1992 or five years after 1987. I, Sam Ajemian, personally know of actual cases of sex with outsiders here in California as late as 1993. I am not making up stories. I know for a fact that they were using sex to gain converts as late as 1993. I know about these cases and some of the gory details. Also in a CAN meeting that took place in 1993 in Minneapolis, USA, COG members were confronted by ex-COG members that they still practice prostitution. "Yes we do, but we are now doing it out of our own free will", was their surprising answer. The following is an excerpt taken from "The Family Answers to Allegations of Sacred Prostitution" clearly showing that the cult is not telling us the whole truth concerning sexual relationships of members with outsiders. "Prostitution Forbidden to Members of The Family. The official Position and Policy Statement on Attitudes, Conduct, Current Beliefs and Teaching Regarding Sex issued in 1992 by World Services on the collective behalf of The Family states in clause 16: Prostitution. No member of any recognized home or community in our fellowship shall be allowed to engage in any form of sexual prostitution. This policy is further reinforced by the fact that all member homes and communities voluntarily agree not to have sexual relationships with non-members, under penalty of excommunication." (Sept. 1996, [2 pages] p. 2). But as we saw earlier the COGs were ffing as late as 1993