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Loving Jesus Reactions

Posted by on May 01, 2002 at 15:10:40:


REACTIONS

“LOVING JESUS” REACTIONS
-Reactions to the “Loving Jesus” GNs, Parts 3 through 6.
For Junior Teens and Up Only!
FSM 289, DO March 1996, Pages 5,7

[From Apollos, the cult’s “theologian.”] I just yielded to Him the way I know a man wants his wife or lover to yield to him. I surrendered to Jesus, relaxing and resting, calling on Him and asking Him to please take me as I was, to forgive me for my former skepticism, and to love me up in the spirit....And strangely, this time with Him seemed to even be somewhat stimulating in a sexual way, as I somehow perceived or felt that He indeed was making love with me in Spirit....Boy, I never thought that saying yes to Jesus meant saying yes to Him f...ing me....I leaned back against the headboard of my bed and closed my eyes and began praying and loving the Lord and telling Him that I wanted Him and needed Him and I wanted Him to fill me with his seeds, asking Him to f... me and sock it to me, etc.

*** FSM 289 p.9,10.
[From a male member] Mama, you have the Words of eternal life, where else would I go?!....I’m looking forward to trying it....to practice the role of being a female sex partner to Jesus....I’m willing to try....in faith and obedience to the Lord and you, my dear Mama and Peter....I think David in the Psalms was having a very intimate love relationship with the Lord in places where he makes such declarations as: “As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after Thee, O God”(Psa.42:1)....Trying to masturbate while having love-up with Jesus I think is going to be the most difficult of the three aspects of the “Loving Jesus” revelation for me. Usually my masturbation fantasies are quite erotic, with gorgeous Family and other women and even goddesses at times, but in all cases women. Doing it to Jesus may be difficult at first to attain an orgasm, but I’ll give it a try. Even if I don’t have an orgasm at first, I think I could still masturbate while loving Jesus as best I can....Saying words of love to Jesus during lovemaking from the standpoint of being a female in the spirit will be an entirely new dimension for me and may not be so easy at first, but I do intend to also give this a good try.

*** FSM 289 p.11,13.
[From a female member] In Part 4, the Lord is speaking in prophecy about how we can show Him our love when we masturbate, if we wish to.(See ML #3030:29.) Before I read this series of GNs when I would masturbate, I would envision one of the Lord’s angels making love to me....When I was reading the GN about masturbation and loving Jesus, I was in my bedroom alone at the time. I got so turned on all of a sudden to try it. So I did! I did all the things you were saying to do, Mama, like telling Jesus I loved Him and desired Him. I read one of the prophecies again while I was goosing myself in the chair and it was so sexy. I visualized Jesus f...ing me and it was terrific....I decided why not devote the evening to Jesus, like I do when I have my normal dates with my sharing partners. I got a glass of wine and put on some music [and] got in bed.... I just closed my eyes and began saying the love words to Jesus. Well, one thing led to another, and before I knew it, I had a terrific orgasm that left me thankful I had put the “Do not Disturb” sign on the door - ha!

*** FSM 289 p. 16.
Personally, I think it’ll be a real time of decision for our young people, perhaps similar to how the FF revolution was for the first-generation adults....I think this may just do the same! It seems to me that with the Charter, quite a few of the teens and YAs are experimenting with freedoms which push them towards the “cool” or “worldly” side, and some are getting quite into it. Whereas the way the New Wine and the Lord are moving is totally in the opposite direction, getting less and less “cool” and “worldly” all the time, but more revolutionary, radical and totally nonconformed to the world. So this series may be a shock!

***FSM 289 p.18.
That night after I read Part 2 of the “Loving Jesus” series....I decided that I was going to try it, and as I masturbated, I fantasized with the Lord and I said the same things to the Lord that I would say when I fantasized about a woman I’m very much in love with - telling Him that I loved Him and wanted to be with Him and f... Him and be f...ed by Him....After I finished reading Part 4, I had another time of praise and a nice love-up with the Lord, making love with Him while I masturbated, and letting Him f... me with His Love. It was very nice, thank the Lord!....You know, it’s funny, but when Dad went to be with the Lord, one thing that I was a little worried about was that we would get more conservative sexually as a Family. The general trend in the Family regarding sexuality has been towards the conservative side for the past few years, I’d say, and I figured that with Dad gone it was just going to get “worse” - in other words, more conservative, which is what I considered “worse!” - Ha! I mean no disrespect in saying this, Mama, but I did imagine you to be quite conservative sexually as compared to Dad. Dad seemed to always be the one promoting sex or talking about sex, so I figured with him gone, no one would promote it or talk about it any more. So I must say it was quite a happy surprise to read in “Mama’s Love Story” and in these “Loving Jesus” GNs that you’re not that way at all! Instead of getting more conservative in this area, I would say we’re getting more liberal.

-Reactions to the “Loving Jesus” GNs, Parts 3 through 6.
For Junior Teens and Up Only!
FSM 290, DO March 1996,

p. 7.[Female member]Long live the queen [Maria!] and the king [Peter!]! Long live the “Loving Jesus” revelation!
Long live the radical spirit of David!

***FSM 290 pp. 8,9. I had a really wonderful experience Loving Jesus and I wanted to write you about it. I’m super exited!...It was nap time....I got out the GN again and found those parts and reread them quickly, so I would remember the suggested things you can say to the Lord. I started praying and telling the Lord the love words. To come out and say, “Come, f... me, Jesus,” was very difficult....I was part praying, part masturbating....It was so neat!...I thought...that I wouldn’t even be able to go. But I did. It was thrilling!

****FSM 290 p.11. I know what turns me on (as a man) for a woman to say to me while making love, and so in playing the role of a woman in the spirit, I could anticipate what the Lord would want to hear, and those words came easily....I’ll catch myself thinking, “What are the academics going to think of this, or our friends, or our persecutors?”[Good question!!] But that’s obviously just looking to the thoughts and opinions of man, and if we’re going to start resting our doctrines and beliefs on that, we’ll immediately relinquish the truly special place and anointing that we have as His Endtime children that “follow the Lamb withersoever He goeth.”

***FSM 290 p. 12.[Female member] The basic content of the “Loving Jesus” GNs wasn’t a problem for me, as I saw that it was just expanding on what Dad has said before....The part about masturbating with Jesus didn’t bother me, as I have done this in the past, but I always wondered what the Lord thought about it....So much talk about sex does tend to make me horny. Sometimes while reading this series I would stop and masturbate, thinking of Jesus, and it sure was a wonderful experience!

*** FSM 290 p.14. I think this is a wonderful series and will help keep us radical and separated from the world with our sexy doctrines! Praise the Lord!

***FSM 290 p.15. At first it was a little shocking for me, especially the part about being a woman in the Spirit, as I just couldn’t picture myself as that.

***FSM 290 p.15.[Female member] About having masturbation love-ups with Jesus....when I read the part that says, “If you want a special time with Me, and if you want to feel My loving, you can touch yourself and you can make yourself go, and it will be My loving you,” I practically jumped up and down for joy, as I started having this experience quite some time ago.

*** FSM 290 p.19. It was very inspiring for me to see how the Lord is still in the business of keeping us separate from the system and the Church system. With all the new changes in the Family and us getting more tolerant of some things, I was kind of getting a little concerned that we would get too close to the world. But thank the Lord, you, Mama and Peter, are new bottles that keep us alive and separate from the world with the New Wine.

FSM 293, DO May 1996,

pp.1,2. [From a Male Senior Teen] - I figured that most of our Family women were already doing this, [lovemeking with Jesus] as it was such a common illustration in the Letters, and it seemed to me it would be fairly easy for women to do....I’ve also had trials previously, thinking, “Are we still a revolution?” I felt that in some way we in the Family had toned down many of our radical doctrines, or they had become “theory only,” without much practical application. Well, the revolution continues!

***FSM 293.p. 2. At first, the thought of being a woman in the spirit when loving Him intimately seemed very weird to me and was hard to accept....I so much want the greater anointing of love and power that the Lord promised, that it’s worth anything to get it!....Recently I’ve been feeling quite discouraged with myself and wishing I could do more with my life for the Lord. I look at great men of the past, like Dwight L. Moody, George Mueller, David ivingstone, Adoniram Judson and scores of others...and I feel I’m doing so little with my life, in comparison!....That’s why I’m so eager to dive in with this new revolution and learn how to make love with Jesus, so that He can give me that power.... “The people that do know their God,...will be strong and do great exploits”(Dan.11:32b). We can interpret and identify this “knowing God” with the intimate and even sexual relationship we can have with Jesus, Knowing Him, and Him us, in the Biblical sense of “knowing!” Praise the Lord!

***FSM 293 p. 3. I want to give Him all He asks for and more; I’m just so touched that He wants that special love from little old me!....I admire, appreciate and love you so much, Mama, for having the faith to pass these Words on to us, especially us younger people.

***FSM 293, p.6. When the Letter started to talk about being a woman in the spirit, my instinctive reaction was to shut down my receptive channels (and offer my copy of the GN to a girl). Ha!....My initial thoughts were, “Is it worth pubbing this because of the furor it may incur with the System?” but then the thought came: If the Family isn’t a revolution, there’d be no reason to stay in it!

***FSM 293, p.6 WHY SOULD WE HESITATE? From a Female Junior Teen -When I first heard about...the “Loving Jesus” GNs, and how us junior teens would have our own version of the GNs, I was a little bit disappointed. I thought, “Oh no, we’re going to have this extremely edited version”....But I was really encouraged when I heard that Mama was trying to give us as much as she could, and was just taking out what was not appropriate for us.

***FSM 293 p. 10. The Lord said that He has needs, and that He yearns and longs for that time like a lover!....The part that was a bit bottle-breaking for me at first was the part about masturbating while telling the Lord of our love for Him. It took me a while to digest that one, ha!

***FSM 293 p.13. Loving Jesus in this intimate and even sexual way is something that I thought of many times in the past, and even fantasized about. However, because of my conservative and churchy upbringing, I always thought that it couldn’t possibly be the right thing to do, much less something that the Lord Himself could request!

***FSM 293 p.14.[Female member] It wasn’t such a shock to me about loving Jesus and saying sexy, loving words to Him while masturbating, as I’d already experienced this to an extend. I had fantasized about making love with Jesus. a few times....Oh, Mama, thank you for being faithful to go ahead and deliver the message from the Lord....It’s not like I’ve got a total victory about this revelation. I mean, my very first reaction to this was raised eyebrows and wide eyes.

***FSM 293 pp.15,16. [Female senior teen] It is quite a heavy revelation, and I must admit that I got hit with some questions like, “Why does it have to be so sexual and graphic? Why does the Lord ask it of our men too?” But one thing that helped me was where Mama said, “If that’s what the Lord asks of us, who are we to question?” It’s really true! Who are we to try to figure out in our finite minds why the Lord wants it that way? It’s quite exciting to see how a whole new generation is basically taking on their first radical new revelation from their new king and queen!

***FSM 293, p.17,18. As far as the whole radical thing about us men making love with Jesus as women in the spirit, all I can say is, “Wow! I’m gonna hang on tight for this one and ride the wave as best I can!”....While we were reading this GN...at one point the Enemy was discouraging me about it. But then, just as clear as anything, the Lord gave me a verse that I have heard so much and is one of the foundations of our Christian life: “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul and with all thy mind; this is the first and great commandment”(Mat.22:37,38). Wow, it took on a whole new meaning! How often have we read, sung, or shared that verse with others? And now the Lord is giving us the full deep meaning of it and showing us how we can apply it fully! - How wonderful!....Incorporating the spiritual aspect into physical sex is a little difficult for me at this point....I haven’t yet become a woman in spirit and had Jesus make love to me....I guess the Lord just had to make it shocking, to shake us out of our ruts and make us wake up and tune in to what He was saying. One thing for sure - if Dad, Mama and Peter say it, then it’s good enough for me. I’m just so thankful for this “Loving Jesus” Revolution.[I really and truly feel sorry for this young man, and others like him, trapped in this horrible cult.]

***FSM 293 p.19.[Female member] I put on the tape “When You Need Him Most,” hugged a pillow and took the plunge in saying love words to Him.

***FSM 293 p.20. The “Loving Jesus” series...is a milestone in the Family and I want to follow closely....I have no doubts whatsoever about the “Loving Jesus” revelation. I know it’s the Lord and I’m very thankful for it.