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More from Susanne

Posted by Sam Ajemian on July 17, 2003 at 18:42:52

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Mr. Ajemian,
As I mentioned to you in my note, we are not interested in either your
anti-Family mail or your web sites or other activities unrelated to changing
the world with God's love. Our job is to preach the Gospel and reach out to
those who have yet to receive His gift of salvation and we do not have the time
for fruitless disputing of doctinal issues.
Sincerely,
Suzanne.
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The abover is the answer to what folows bellow:
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Hi Suzanne,

Sorry I didn't answer you sooner. I'll keep it short. By the way, couple
people have taken over the countercog.com, countercog.net and countercog.org
domains. I wrote the Family asking if they might know who has done this but
did not receive a reply. Maybe I sent it to you. I don't remember. At any
rate, I wonder why you (the Family) sent me this e-mail but did not answer
my other e-mail where I was asking about the domain names. Can you give me a
yes or no answer about the Family being or no being responsible for taking
over all these domain names in order to divert e-mails coming to me to
pro-COG sites and to the Family site?
Here are my answers. I just don't have the time to get into all the details
of the issues you raise. These are some short statements written in a harry
and there are many points that I am not responding to, due to lack of time.
Hope you don't mind the types of statements that I am making, I like to
speak planly. I would be interested in your response. Take care. Sam AJemian
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May 14, 2003
Mr. Ajemian,



We are writing in acknowledgement of your note. We are sorry to hear
of the vehemence with which you continually attack individuals and
organizations attempting to assist those in need. We are sorry because we
are
assured by God's Word that the Lord can't bless the efforts of those who
devote
themselves to harming others instead of fulfilling His mandate to all His
followers to "go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every
creature,"
which is our calling and passion. (In December 2002, the Family collectively
witnessed to 1.3 million people, won a quarter of a million souls, and
distributed 1.8 million pieces of Gospel literature). [It would had been a
better choice of words to use conviction, or zeal instead of the word
vehemence. What I am attacking is not the good you do, but the bad you do.
Many theologians and apologist do this and have been doing it since the
begining of Chfristianity. You are a heretical movement and on top of that
you have abused children in great numbers and these are acts punishable by
law. You did these criminal acts knowing full well that you were breaking
the law. There is nothing evil about exposing criminal acts and herecy.]
We would appreciate that you refrain from sending such hate mail to us in
the
future. [They are not hate mail. You are simply using these horrible words
to stereotype me as this evil person that has nothing better to do that
persecute all you righteous servants of the Lord. You just need to wake up.]
The Family is a fellowship devoted to making a difference in the lives
of others, leading them to Christ, and as such is not interested in
campaigns
aimed at doing any branch of God's work harm. [You have caused a lot of harm
in the lives of a lot of people of which I am one.]

We would much prefer to hear of the lives you are helping lead to
Christ, the poor you are helping to feed and the needy you are uplifting.
We
are reminded of the words of James, "Pure religion and undefiled before God
and
the Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction."
(James 1:27). We may be mistaken, but we are unaware of a thriving
Christian
mission work attributed to yourself. [I dedicated the best years of my life
to follow such a group, but it turned out to be a horrible cult.]

We believe that the Lord will recompense the works of each one, and
we are sure He sees and will be just in His recompense of each of our
activities. If you will peruse the Bible, you will see that opponents to
those
serving God were many. Indeed, Paul had a great number of problems with
opponents, probably due to his utter commitment and refusal to
compromise: "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil. The Lord reward
him
according to his works. of whom be thou ware also, for he hath greatly
withstood our words." (2 timothy 4:14 and 15) [You can try to convine
yourself that I am an opponent of a Christian work, but the truth is that I
am trying to protect society and Christianity from a very filthy, perverted
and criminal group.]

However sincere you may believe your endeavors to be, your desire to
hurt and harm others cannot be chocked up as "service for God" according to
Scripture. [Opposing a false "Christian" group is something that you will
see in the Bible again and again. The problem is that you don't see yourself
for what you are, a highly deluded cult, but rather the apple of God's eye.
If you saw your group for what it really is, then you would understand why I
do what I do.] On the other hand, Jesus did say that "they that kill you
shall
think they do God service." (John 16:2) [I have not tried to kill anybody.]
Obviously, those who were killing
others were sincerely mistaken to the point of thinking they were doing God
service. Of course, intentionally harming others does not fit in with the
Golden Rule, nor the fruits of His Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22 and 23.
[The bottom line is that either or or me is very, very, very deceived and I
don't think I am the one who is deceived.]
"Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? Let him shew
out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye
have
bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not and lie not against the
truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above. for where envying and strife
is,
there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above
is
first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy
and
good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of
righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace." (James 3: 13-18).
[You can not have peace with evil, your "Law of Love" false doctrine has
caused and is still causing more harm that you realize.]
We have a mission to lead as many people to Christ as we can during our
lifetime, as such we really don't have time for striving or theological
arguments that are not compatible with sowing the fruit of righteousness,
God's
word, in peace. [Some day I hope you will leave the group and then after
some time, after you mind has cleared us, you will look back at this
conversation and you will see just how off all these statements you are
making are. I had to come to that realization myself, as well as thousands
upon thousands of other former members. I do know and realize it is very
hard for you to see these things now but I hope some day your will be able
to see it.] Our prayer is that you will invest more energy in His work of
preaching the Gospel and less in fighting those who are already doing so.
[Preaching the Gospel is great, preaching herecy is very wrong, and I
honestly can't thing of one single Bible based heresy in all of two thousand
years of Christian history that comes anywere near to been as heretical,
dangerous and destractive of people's lives than yours. I am talking from
personal experience, personal wounds and personal pain.]
Sincerely in Christ,

Suzanne for The Family