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Re: Education in the Family

Posted by MG on August 11, 2003 at 00:26:22

In Reply to: Education in the Family posted by repost from below on August 10, 2003 at 15:40:36:

Laura's post is accurate, the CVC diplomas have helped some individuals, to get a job or into a school. But there's not much substance to it as Miguel says.

About the term "College": here in Continental Europe when you say you went to College, they think of the European equivalent to High School. After finishing "College", students take the "Baccalauréat" exams which gets them into the best Universities when they do well on them. In general, students that pass the "bac" are more advanced scholstically than most graduates from American High Schools. There's a whole lot of differences to the way things are done in Europe as opposed to the US. It's difficult to compare. Anyway, to use the term College is definitely misleading, even in Europe. Most young people go into specific apprentiships, and they learn a trade, this can be for more than learning to be an electician for example, it can also go as far as learning to be a lab specialist. And the students who opt for going to College in order to qualify for University are the minority.

Laura's right, the Family kids who judiciouly completed the CLE or something equivalent, are much better equipped to go on to University.

My daughter did not get anything at all like the CLE, she was a full time teen "missionary", and child-care worker, by the time the CVC came into prominence, mainly due to Justice Ward's pressure.

So when she left the Family in order to get into a University first she bought a self teaching book to prepare for the GED. When she passed that she bought books to prepare for the SAT, along with a series of professional videos (not Uncle Dan videos) to learn Algebra, and she finally managed to get herself into a University on student loans. She's a fighter.

She ended up excelling and graduated sum cum laude in May. She was awardwed a fellowship to attend a top public affairs grad school which she starts next month. But even this summer, she took a course in calculus to be better prepared.

If she'd have had even a basic high school education there would've been lots less catch up for her to do. But in TF there was never the time for it, as Laura says. As a teen my daughter dreamed of being able to study, but most Family teens, even now, are not given a chance for that kind of input. The CVC, without a comprehensive CLE cirriculum, does not provide much more than dipolmas.