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Re: A question for Jojo

Posted by moonshiner on September 16, 2005 at 17:22:03

In Reply to: Re: A question for Jojo posted by JoJo on September 16, 2005 at 12:54:37:

JoJo, though you don't answer some of the questions I posed to you, you do reveal quite a bit about your position regarding TF. Since you did not answer my question about that directly, I'm left to conclude certain things from your response.

You state: "The TFI has changed so much and doesn't resemble anything like it did 20 years ago." This insinuates, when taken together with other statements you've made, that you believe TF has changed for the better. However, despite some positive changes, there have been some very negative changes, e.g., LJR, and it is still the same leadership at the top, they still believe that Berg was THE endtime prophet, that his writings are equal to if not more important than the Bible, they still believe in the Law of Love and Deceivers Yet True, etc., etc., etc. How does this make TF substantially different today than 20 years ago. The positive changes, imo, are superficial and since TF is secretive and not accountable to any authority, the potential for continued abuse in various forms, not just sexual, is huge.

You repeat with great emphasis that you never saw organised sharing schedules for Jetts or Teens, but yet you don't answer my direct question, which is "just because you never saw it where you were, do you think that means it never happened anywhere?" Your failure to answer that question and your continued emphasis that you never saw it happen, leads me to conclude that you don't believe the accounts of those who were involved with such things, which is another way of saying that you think they are lying. In fact, my conclusion is supported by another statement you make: "I too am saddened alot by what has happened to alot of the younger ones when they left."

Help me understand this. You are saddened by what happened to them when they left, but not by what happened to them while they were still in? This strongly insinuates that you don't believe that abuse occurred in TF, or at least not that it was systemic. You immediately follow that statement with the aburd suggestion that some people on these boards are claiming that everyone young person who has left TF was sexually abused. I don't recall ever reading any posts here that make that claim, and I've read them all for a couple years now. This just seems to be a tactic on your part to try to discredit those who frequent this website. For example, you start off this latest post of yours denigrating, some by name, those who post on these boards. And you don't stop there, but make huge assumptions, generalizations and false accusations about those who post on this site, setting yourself up by contrast as the shiny example of moving on.

I think I may now have the answer to the question I posed to you regarding your position on TF.