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please excuse my ranting

Posted by Farmer on July 15, 2009 at 08:22:19

In Reply to: Re: Not without my sister posted by bored out of my brains on July 15, 2009 at 07:26:23:

..."nobody"...excuse me...according to TF-ideology I really was a nobody & still feel like it...b u t sorry to break it to you: I didn't personally witness any sexual abuse, neither did I personally conduct it (logical implication)..we can exchange email addresses names & my basic profile if need be & I challenge you to tell me where I exactly was & when between summer 1976 and 1989 (until 1992 doesn't really count,cause we lived with my exes mom mostly or by ourselves)...now you know my biography better than me???, that is really interesting.May I know who you are and who gives you the right to challenge the veracity/claim of my remarks.I don't gain anything by doing so...lieing...I gained rather more if I'd confessed, should that be necessary.Every once in a while there appears a commentator here on the board, claiming for whatever reason, that that cannot be true....like: all should have been perpetrators...personally.That sounds like an axiom out of the book of some abused or it's moral defendors...to which I count myself...if you allow, but not to the point, that I confess to something, which I didn't do.Otherwise we are "in the wrong movie"...you know these movies, where the interrogated finally confesses to things he has never done.Happened also in the times of the inquisition and also in reality today.

Sorry, but what are you up to?May I know?Do you lack so much confidence in your environment, people around you, lack that much discernment, that you call everybody a liar (which you haven't done verbally, but in essence), just because it suits your axioms/preoccupations?????

And sorry for rattling/venting/ranting on...I never said I did nothing wrong, but what I did wrong has nothing to do with sexual abuse.May be we should start a list of confessions of evils of the regular posters here for readers to "benefit" by...if that should help any of the readers like you.
But you really sound scarily shortcircuited/preoccupied in your conclusions.

And why shouldn't it matter????Now you have the same attitude as many of the former hippies...some more dope & drug and it might stop paining and mattering (reality that is)

...ok ok if you are one of the abused, I really apologize (for the painkiller/drug-remark)...for that (past abuse) is to my knowledge super difficult to almost impossible to overcome, leading a normal life that is and that's why I am really upset with my own past and support of TF and living that long in it and that's where I have my deep sympathies for the pain of the abused.Because there is no or no quick remedy for all that.May be you could clarify that a bit...please!!!!!!

Sorry no insults/harm intended...but I don't get where you really stand on this issue, or better I can't believe what I read...you put everybody/lump everybody into the same basket(garbage bin)

I am not out to get appreciated by you, neither do I have to defend some reputation....but what matters for me since teenage years: finding out the truth...trying to live for it...and although that doesn't convince you any...since my very youth the most difficult thing for my consciosness was any attempt to lie, that is deliberately, I am not talking about living in deceit or training others wrong, by having not discerned very fine differences (and the latter took me unfortunately longer to learn, even after TF)

It'd be some progress (from my viewpoint) for you, if you could settle for some compromise in the matter, as I read already other (??) SGAs opinions...who conceded to the - to me - rather obvious: many/majority/most of the FGAs participated personally in sexual abuse of minors...but not necessarily all (here's a matter of faith for you,which you at the moment seem to lack :( ).In my country somebody is innocent until proven the contrary....same goes in my book/conduct for prejudices...and you seem to have too many for my liking....sorry, even if you are wounded and hurt, I'd still appreciate the non-clouding of the possible/rather obvious...for me... facts (not all were personal, sexual abusers...difficult to believe/accept for adult members of a sex-cult, isn't it???)

Thought I needed to clarify/comment on that.Peace to you and us (the board)