Posted by Farmer on November 17, 2011 at 01:22:31
In Reply to: Re: Not everything is about you posted by Skep on November 16, 2011 at 17:54:28:
I admit...that I kind of put you into a box and labeled you:"against me"...so subconsciously may be I am prejudiced myself...in reality..in meeting ...not in cyber-space...we would have other signals of communication to go by too...some emotional evaluation.
I go a lot by, whether people are happy and content...people in a congregation e.g.
But seriously, Skep...I do have quite a sharp tool to measure Berg by: the Word of God...we could make a list of where he is found wanting.That is for me personally enough or the main point.
As a matter of fact reading it/The Bible kind of brought me often enough to a cringe...cringe...because I need desperately Christ's grace...to overcome my weaknesses.TG they are not on the line of paedophilia etc....but at times e.g. I get super angry with my situation and TG living single nobody hears me ; )...but may be my neighbours...just to say I can't stand my own self for too long..the Word is too convicting...at the same time soo comforting.
I wished...Berg and others...would have "gotten the curve" so to speak in time...audibly/visibly for others...
Take e.g. his nonsense (I thought a few days ago about it) of trying to cure his throat-affliction/infection from oral sex...by gobbling down lots of alcohol...later saying...oh...it also turned me into an alcoholic...but being legalistic with the wine-quota...
Where was that great healing power of TFI also regarding Maria/Karen's eyes...
I believe, that I have to do something for my remaining health...I know quite a few colleagues...who don't seem to do their best for their body...and I myself devoured in the past too many sweets...must have been for comfort???...anyway I dropped all that including the little remaining alcohol...without being now legalistic about it.
Just to say...I have a long list of where I don't think Berg was in line with the counsel of the Word...plus in Romans 13-manner also not in line with the laws of many a nation of the part of the world, where he resided for some time.
We could make a list...and I bet, it'd be a very long one...since he misunderstood "the law of love"..that is where the main sins/crimes and blunders are piled up IMO
Skep you might know, that some things are wrong for a Christian to do...think of...even if there's no civil law against that...anyway...combined it's long..and I figure, we basically agree on that...& it is rather not my intention to belittle anything Berg did do wrong.
However what irks me a bit is..how downright militant some of us are against Bergian evil...without explaining...how much they themselves are still fighting some of the past evils/sins...in their current lives or what they have actually overcome...for all have sinned...that is also the biblical verdict/counsel...therefore I have to clean/sweep in front of my own door/yard.
It's very necessary to point out the sins of Berg...but it is also very "healthy" to confront myself with the word of God and taking it very personal..in a way I am not really much better than Berg.I haven't abused sexually or hadn't have sexual intimacy with any underage person...TG...nevertheless I also followed the way of the flesh...was an adulterer...fornicator...even if there was common
"permission" from the involved and beyond...but that doesn't suffice...from biblical perspective etc. etc....my list is also very long and it is enough to make you very desperate...that was also my journey...and still is.
Wish you all the best in overcoming