Posted by Thinker on January 28, 2012 at 23:00:12
In Reply to: Re: To "I Feel Terrible" posted by Farmer on January 28, 2012 at 03:46:06:
Farmer, I'm on the road traveling due to work and don't have a lot of time right now. I will be straight to the point and blunt. Here is where I have a problem with you:
First of all, I find it rude that you are talking to me about "I Feel Terrible" in third person in this particular manner. Imagine if we were all in the same room. (Pardon me, I Feel Terrible, but I am about to do the same, just to address Farmer.)
Next, IFT already said she agreed with me about why she started posting here, yet you can't take it from there and relate to her, but insist you know better, insist that she relate to you.
Next, if you can't understand how someone can hate themselves, I wouldn't even know how to explain it to you. You really missed the point about her having made choices and hating herself for it. Put that together with other circumstances where she meant to do good for others but can't understand why everything was taken away, probably things that were tied to her self-worth, and it's quite obvious she feels some deep loss of meaning in her life: Eli, Eli lama sabachthani? I can see that you just don't get it about a heck of lot of things, and I'm sorry, but I can really understand her complaints about you.
Next, pride is usually a good thing in my book. The way you put someone down for having pride just stinks of TFI ideology.
Next, you have a very fundamentalist application of the bible verses--you press them to fit every situation; rather than expand your understanding, you seem to contract. Whether or not something is a go or a no-go for you theologically has absolutely nothing to do with I Feel Terible. This is not about you or your theology. It is not about your proving your theology on some candidate for conversion. This is about a real person in pain.
With all respect too, if she agrees with my assessment that she posted with intentions to hear about other people's experiences of God and hardship, whether or not it makes sense to you is irrelevant. She agrees it's what she is seeking, so why not? Again, this is not about you and what you decide for her. Your dominant and locked attitude leaves a lot to be desired.