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Re: moral dilemma

Posted by ray on December 09, 2002 at 17:17:36

In Reply to: Re: moral dilemma posted by Rocky on December 09, 2002 at 15:39:55:

i was kenaz. pioneered in india , mideast. field leader there. eventually promoted to minister, then after rnr eventually to king's counselor, continuing to live in the east. in 1979 was interveiwed to take a position in ws..(was to be a rotating thing w/ king pete and another bro). but i got fired b4 i got hired when faithy visited greece and discovered i "didn't have enough of the spirit of david" and did have a "do your own thing "spirit. guilty as charged, i admit. from that time on i tried to stay as much on the outskirts as possible. usually had our own home, which left us freer to ignore a lot of stuff, but got rounded up and retrained a couple of times too.(no silence restriction then...but you can bet my shepherds wish there had been!). held some elected field positions occasionally, but definitely not in w/ the in crowd.

don't know what you mean by "a major leader who has not yet come forward." most of the criminal practices that made me leave the family were published by ws itself for all to see. i left in 1990 b4 victor camps, most of the stuff reported on movingon etc. even happened. i learned most of what i know about things from folks who left after me, and from reading these boards. i may have some knowledge of abusive things that happened in places i was after my fall from grace, but no more, and probably a lot less than most who post here.

as far as the question of dismantling the family,
if i think that the world, and all family and exmembers would be much better off w/o it. but as paul says, "how to perform that which is good i find not". you seem to speak as if the "judgement" of the family's fate is some sort of world court or something. i certainly didn't know there were any judges here, and if there are i certainly would not want to serve. i had the impression that the discussion here was amongst freemen of many stripes of opinion and a shared background. my interest is that i have 5 kids , an exwife, a brother &his family, and many loved ones still in, as well as the acquaintance of hundreds of exmems of both generations whom i also like a great deal.

i still don't understand how you anticipate "dismantling the family." at all costs?

anyway, i really don't get the point of your post. perhaps you know far more than i about this issue than i.

but don't worry, i am just a guy who usually travels, but is a stay at home dad for 10 days while my wife is away...so i've got way too little supervision at the moment. she doesn't let me do this when she's home...and pretty soon we're gonna run out of clean clothes and the dirty dihes are gonna be stacked too high to get to the faucet. defacto recusal will occur. good day.