Posted by long time exer on December 21, 2011 at 11:02:52
In Reply to: Re: A matter of loyalty posted by Farmer on December 19, 2011 at 09:18:36:
All are (were) humans and prolly at least sometimes wore underwear, but I'm not grateful that society had any of them nor for anything any of them did. Did you read my reply to your post below where you erroneously labeled me as focusing on "poor me" or something like that when I talked about Stockholm Syndrome? And did you read the link to the article about it, since you seemed to indicate that symptoms of SS were only associated to people who were taken by force? I'd imagine that people leaving TF at various points in their lives and of varying ages or varying points of entry (by birth, joining)can relate to this.
Also, maybe there are several reasons people quit coming here:
1. Out for a long time and would rather move on than keep reading threads like this.
2. Out for a short time and don't want to deal with the past by reading or posting things related to TF.
3. Aren't interested in the latest Bollywood or India Times news.
4. Don't want to go through the mental masturbation of what is or is not appropriate according to whatever is currently being discussed by whomever is discussing it according to however they assume it is "supposed" to be done.
You left TF and you find things that were of value that you see as being the good in Berg in spite of his flaws as a sinful human being who erred greatly and seriously.
I see David Berg as portraying "good" but being rotten to the core- through and through. I see him as a monster who was a child molester before he even ever started the family, then he tried to normalize things like prostitution, child molestation, incest. So no, I don't care if he wore underwear or not, if he gave "sound" sermons he plagiarized, or whatever. Neither Hitler or Berg presented as obvious "evil" but they were charismatic which is why they had followings. Their inner core manifested with time. Certainly he did not present as being about all that he later made doctrine and/or practiced in his household, but I can tell you this, I am sick to death of religion of any sort, probably especially Christianity and that is likely why I'll stay away. Not because of some big secret that needs to be confessed or a need for public repentance. Sorry, I don't have any big demons swept under my rug.
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